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Kagura Nikon
Infinity Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.05.30 11:32:00 -
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 Originally by: Ruciza
The "consensus" is that the Tempest now sucks because NOS and ECM was nerfed some centuries ago. See the connection? Me neither.
So you must suck even more than the tempest. Tempest have a weirdo slot layout that sacrifices your tank to be get a free extra mid slot. Since EWar is nearly useless outside dedicated ewar ships (trend started with revelations 1). This last mid slots is almost useless.
The 2 high slots also were used with NOS, that increased the tempest capability of breaking tanks while feedign its dual rep tank. So it coudl keep a not so pathetic tank and still break tanks.
NO you cannot fit plates in a tempest, its idiotic. because tempest asset over a megathron or other battleships is its speed! If you throw it away and allow to get caught in web range you dead. And with 6 low slots you cannto fit a decent HP tank while getting any dps > paper bag.
Also the advent of overheat screwed tempest capability of controlling range. Because if you are in tempest adn in middle of a MWD burst, your enemy overheat and trigger its own MWD. You cannot overheat for 5-6 more seconds. That means he will catch ya, regartheless of tempest being made to be faster.
Simply all these major changes @#!#!@#&21 the tempest completely. Now you are stuck with a sub par tank, sub par dps and slight but not important speed advantage (because of overheat).
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Kagura Nikon
Infinity Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.05.30 11:54:00 -
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Tempest can be repaired without major changes. if
CCP makes overheat be usable at any moment in a module cycle
Give it a bit more fittings so it can use the last 2 high slots with siege launchers (without needing PG rigs and implants and using tier 1 guns all at same time).
Give it a bit more agility so it can explore better its speed advantage.
Give it more drone bay (125m) so it can supplement its dps or use web drones to supplement the range control)
OR the option that we need to rpesent so CCP discards it imediately and have mroe chance of implementign one of the previous:
Give it 1 more turret.
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Kagura Nikon
Infinity Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.05.30 15:56:00 -
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Originally by: JonnyKay
thanks for all the replies.
some good points as to why the tempest isnt what it used to be. Although I dont know why people only think the tempest is an arty platform though, does no-one think it's a decent AC boat at all?
As people said nos/neuts aren't everything nowdays, so the extra 2 high slots could be used to add more dps with torps or cruise missiles.
2 unbonused cruise launchers are almost useless. 2 siege woudl be OK. IF we could fit them without downgrading to dual 425 MM.
Give tempest 600 more PG and 25 tf more CPU. then it can use its last slots for extra firepower to at least diminish its issues.
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Kagura Nikon
Infinity Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.05.30 22:40:00 -
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Originally by: Trevor Warps
IMO, Minmatars got :
-Ok BSes, maybe the worst race for that atm, but still not too far behind.
-Decent frigs, stiletto, hyena, hound, jaguar, RIFTER !
-Best small gang command ship, which also got sweet tank.
-And the best about them is *drum rolls*, CRUISER SIZED SHIPS ! Oh god, they do rock. Vaga, Recons, Broadsword, Rupture, Stabber ... geez
how about the horrible capital ships? Are they balanced on what? on our amazing shuttles?
Well Matari BS are nto bad, with exvception of tempest that was severely #!@#!@ with the changes since revelation. Being versatile back in RMR was good, now its beign crap.
give 1 more turret to tempest and change the damage bonus to falloff bonus :)
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Kagura Nikon
Infinity Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.05.31 23:25:00 -
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Originally by: JonnyKay
./begin cheese
One of the great things about eve is that every ship has potential, the Minnie BS don't suck completely, they're just stuck in the past and need a little love from the devs to catch up with today's new style of play.
I'm sure there's plenty of people still dying to typhoons/tempests/maelstroms out there though.
The Minnie BS had their day, and their day will come once again (hopefully!)
./end cheese
and that is why we whine, so the tempest problems are noticed and remembered. Soem day hopefully some dvs wil spend 40 min discussing how to boost the tempest (considering they follow one of our simple suggestions instead of tryign to invent soemthign from scratch), spend 15 min implementing it and we will be happy again.
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